John Harricharan: We should ask and by asking — there are different ways of asking. One is just getting yourselves out of the way, feeling how you’d feel of the thing you wanted to have happen happened and let it come to you, instead of chasing after it. I think we were designed to be creatures of joy, creatures to give, creatures of love. And we have gotten a bit lost along the way because we have been hypnotized into believing that we are just clod that we’ve got to struggle and so forth.

Do you look at the little acorn in the ground if there is a struggle to become mighty oak tree, does it say? I’m going to become a mighty oak tree. Oh my gosh how am I going to do that and it tries to figure how to do that. All it has to do is allow itself to be that because it’s its nature to do it so. What we’re putting here together is, what I think we would call a very special membership site. Where anyone at anytime could go for guidance, for comfort. I am sure, you will also have a member of board there, won’t you Vish? Where members…

A. Vishwanath: Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. There would be membership and forum — membership and forums.

John Harricharan: Yes. Where members could communicate with each other, where they could exchange ideas. Right?

A. Vishwanath: Yeah.

John Harricharan: Yeah. And…

A. Vishwanath: Yeah. In fact I’m going to — that will be addressed in later, you know, questions. So yeah, that’s a very important part, and yeah that would there.

John Harricharan: Yeah. Well, any way, let me just take your questions. Go ahead Vish.

A. Vishwanath: Yeah. Thanks, John, you know thank you very much. And I do remember, you know, that you keep seeing all this, you know all of the crap going on the internet and self-help and you know many sites on spiritual and obviously you know people who know you, and you really did not want to go out.

And so actually my next question is that many people have actually have been misguided as to the real truth, because you know, everywhere there is, as you see whether it’s internet marketing or anything that are you know so much — gives really and you said it was just like you know the other day you were speaking on the interview John. So you know how is like — I mean — you gave me that they wanted the example of differentiating self-help and spirituality and how actually self-help is at a certain level and spirituality is it one of this.

So if you could bring that comparison again, so that people can clearly see the difference, so that and what I want you to do is if you can, John, list out, let’s say three short-term benefits, which people will get and three long-term benefit though I know that as they progress, you know, it will be a couple of zeros more and it would be, you know sort of 300 or something. But two things, you know, differentiations in self-help and spirituality and three short-term and long-term benefits if they can immediately apply to their real lives.

John Harricharan: Self-help, Vish, and self-development are parts of the spirituality quadrant or the spirituality equation. To really, really become spiritual, many people run around they’re trying to find something here and find something there, whereas they’ve already been that. You’re a spiritual as you could ever be. Self-help is just a small segment that tries to add things to one’s character or problem one’s self — self-development is the same thing and I am not saying those things aren’t good, they are fantastic.

It’s like — it’d be ridiculous for me to say self-help and self-development aren’t great things. You know it just as it would be ridiculous for me to say one could become an expert writer without knowing the alphabet. It’s a stepping-stone, it really is. And it’s good, but it’s limiting, it just stops at a certain point where the human personality and the human mind cannot conceive or think of greater things. I have herd people talk about, well; you have to say this mantra over and over again. And I think that’s a good thing to a certain degree.

I have herd people say you’ve got to think positively, and yes that’s a good thing to a certain degree to accept when it gets to the point where you say, “I am going to be positive even if it kills me.” I have herd people say that love is the greatest power and so I’m going to love everybody even if it kills me. You see what is happening there, we’re having the negative and positive.

The good and the not so good, all blended together when people and their self-help searches tend to go for all kinds of approaches. They think that the gurus and the teachers and the people who write these books are the ones who are going to save them from their problems. Well, maybe you don’t need to save yourself from your problems. Maybe you just need to let the solutions in the problems come to you and grow into true spirituality, which becomes very ordinary.

People think that those who are spiritual are able to walk on water. Yes, they can do that too. But I bet most of you have never seen anybody do that. Although I have to admit that I have seen it happened and even tried it once or twice myself. However, what good is it to study to walk on water? And I’ve written about such things. What good is it to think that spirituality is — has something to do with levitation?

Spiritually, yes, it could do all of that. Doesn’t electricity have a lot to do with your television or your microwave or your computer? Yeah, but you don’t focus on electricity. When you sit in front of your computer, you don’t say, “Oh dear electricity, now I will pray to you that you make this computer work.” It is the nature of electricity to do what it is doing. It is the nature of the human being to be spiritual.

So one doesn’t have to run here and run there and say, look there’s a new guru. Here’s a new teaching. There’s a new website. Here is this man who says you will get everything you want because there is a law called the law of attraction. There is another one who says there is a law called the law of gratitude. Follow that and you will be fine. And another one who will say there is one called the law of giving. Ah, this is the one you have to do.

It reminds me of the story, Vish, I told you the poem about the three blind men and the elephant.

A. Vishwanath: Yeah, yeah.